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Burning a Lion disk:
http://eggfreckles.net/tech/burning-a-lion-boot-disc/

Does Lion support more Bluetooth profiles now?

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Am I the only one that sees the default setup for using Lion (its install method) as very, very bad for the typical computer user that may need to recover from a major OS mishap?

I can see this really biting Apple in the ass.

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Did someone say download only?



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Now that's an avatar I haven't seen around here in a while. Hi Smithcraft! Welcome back.

- Anonymous

Hello there!

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i don't think there's been official apple word that rosetta has been dropped but all signs are pointing to yes

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/13/os- ... lications/

I'm expecting that Rosetta has been dropped. I think there are only a couple programs that I use that would be affected. They're probably expendable, but the likely inability to run them doesn't excite me about 10.7.

- Anonymous

Rosetta is gone... no more AppleWorks!

How much space does a vanilla Lion Install take up?

I ask because I saw this:

http://eggfreckles.net/tech/installing-lion-clean/

I have a small extra external HD, only 20 GB (ONLY! Gosh, I remember when a 1 GB drive was gawd awful unimaginably big!) in capacity (well, less so formatted). It is an old OWC firewire drive I need to find a use for, and this would be a decent use, if Lion fits!

Oh, why Lion? Eh, why not? Good idea to keep one machine up to date. But to do this I would need to clone the Snow Leopard off, erase and partition the original HD, clone it back and install Lion on the other partition, PITA.

Lion can be pretty small I hear.

>Oh, why Lion? Eh, why not?

How much do you like to be kept track of?

according to this: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/11755/in ... partition/
it takes just less than 10GB. i can confirm tomorrow at work

And if you have an SSD where wiping and reformatting (yes you really do need to zero it all out due to how the controllers work on these things), not only do you lose a write cycle for the entire drive, but it's that much more of a PITA to do. Writing zeros on large SSDs takes a while. And it's necessary because of how the controllers utilize memory cells on SSDs. While fragrmentation doesn't kill the SSD's performance, running low on cells that are physically empty (zeros) or runnint out of them means that in order for the SSD to perform any further writes, it must first copy a cell to cache, zero it out, and re-write to it, thus eating write cycle availability much faster than even a flat reformat w/ all zero option.

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I agree with the points you make.
I have been dragging my feet going to snowL mostly because of the fact that I have all PPC equipment. I do realize that I have not been in the "iApple Market Model" for some time now. I would like to find something as hassle free as the 10.4 has been.
There is a remote possibility of an equipment upgrade to intel but I think I will live in my "Tesla bubble" (the dream machine) for a bit longer.
I do not plan on exposing my data (other than websites) to any third party. There is really nothing to hide it is just a matter of personal privacy.
What I do with the computer (besides wasting time) does not require any binding fast speed, just reliability. 10.4 has been that for me.
As have said before apple is eventually going to the iOS - they own the chip design, the hardware design and the OS and the control of the apps. Soon with the iCloud they will own your personality. And people will eat it up. shades of Eagle Eye

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I couldn't agree more with that.

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I do kind of like where they're going with it but I think they're still avoiding the inevitable. The iPad is fantastic and awesome, but there are still people who want an actual Macintosh tablet. The idea with Lion is to come as close to a tablet as possible without actually doing so. Or maybe they're preparing Mac users for a Mac tablet later on? And Lion's just a transition OS? Either way, the fullscreen apps thing isn't new. That is, it isn't if you've ever used KDE on Linux which almost every application can be fullscreen. As long as it's resizable, KDE can make it fullscreen and you can make your own gesture or key command to do it. As for having more than one fullscreen app running side-by-side on other screens? KDE has that too. If you have the Desktop Cube animation set to on, it will even do a nice flipping animation when switching desktops (of which you can have up to 20). And you can have fullscreen apps on each one if you please. Or you can have more than one fullscreen app on one desktop and switch between them using Exposé (actually it's called Present Windows, but it's literally the same thing, Only difference is that a close button also appears on windows so you can close them from it.).

Oh and if it's download only, screw that. I like physical DVD's that I can use if something goes haywire.

It sure appears to be a transition towards CloudOS & less control/rights by the user.

My feeling is that's just for the "premiere" and that there will be a DVD in due course. It doesn't make sense for Apple to leave out everyone who isn't running 10.6 or who doesn't have the bandwidth for such a huge file. I sure don't. The 10.6.7 Combo weighing in at over 1GB took me over two hours to download on my slow 1 Mbps DSL. Anyway, I don't want the damned thing, even if it comes free on a DVD with a McDonald's Happy Meal.

The only problem with full screen applications, something that I hasten to add has been possible on OS X since the beginning, is that by making them a "feature," developers may start building programs this way. Full screen makes a lot more sense on other platforms that already don't manage windows very intelligently, like Windows. On a Mac, one of the great strengths is that the program isn't the window itself; it's reasonable and desirable to have many windows, many documents, and many programs running at once. Being able to see and interact with these documents simultaneously, with only the menu bar changing between them as a contextual element, makes going back and forth and doing things simultaneously very easy and natural. Other windowing systems are much more modal, or use of multiple windows is much more awkward, so "full screen" on those doesn't often take much away. On the Mac, it does. Furthermore, not many programs will likely benefit much from going full screen. Those that will are applications that are highly modal to begin with, like video players and certain games, where anything else going on is clearly detrimental. But these programs are already full screen.

So I'm afraid that programs will gratuitously use the full screen API, to the detriment of usability. This is great on an iPhone or iPad or iPod, but not great on a Mac. It's great for megalomaniacal CEOs pathologically obsessed with making people do things his way, not the customers way, but a step backwards in usability for people who hope to accomplish real tasks with their general-purpose computers. And it's great for boiling the frog, turning the Mac in to an iThing, as opposed to a general purpose computer.

Sure that's only one little feature of 10.7, but I've seen the trajectory Apple's on and I'm not excited.

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I can't find a single likable thing about it myself.

so 10.7 DP4 released yesterday has some new stuff

http://www.cultofmac.com/here-is-whats- ... ots/101083

and rumors are they won't release new hardware (MBA, LED Cinema) until 10.7 ships. wonder if that means new hardware will be locked to 10.7?

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/16/app ... -launches/

Thanks MC.



Oh brother, I wonder if that counts for more than 2 "improvements"???

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it is so fing handome, satin, and rico suave though. i could almost forgive all the iOS iApp iCloud iGnorance stuff

I wonder if there's a way to turn off all those other high bandwidth things you must view/see when you have to go to the APP store just to get a Software Update!?